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By Tim Dierkes [September 3, 2008 at 4:33pm CST]
I would like to get back to basics for this post. Time to discuss my strategy for winning a fantasy baseball mixed league of normal size and conditions (H2H or roto). All of my title-winning fantasy teams were built this way. Feel free to add your methods in the comments.
- Use conservative projections. Ideally, you should average preseason projections together from five different sources. This drastically reduces the risk of overrating or underrating a player. It also reminds you that last year isn't everything and players like Jermaine Dye and Jason Bay can bounce back.
- Don't consider starting pitching until the eighth round of the draft. The following starters went within the first seven rounds in March of '07: Erik Bedard, Josh Beckett, Justin Verlander, Aaron Harang, and John Smoltz. Sure, I cherry-picked the bad ones. But early-round picks on starters have been and will always be very dangerous, capable of ruining your season.
- Pursue power/speed threats whenever possible. Corey Hart, Bobby Abreu, Matt Kemp, Ian Kinsler, Nate McLouth...these players give you a balanced attack. You don't want to be drafting Willy Taveras for speed, Placido Polanco for average, and Adam Dunn for power.
- Don't pay for closers. Most experts harp on this point, but you still see J.J. Putz drafted in the fifth round ahead of Kinsler. It's not that this never works; closers routinely provide tons of value. It just increases your risk unnecessarily. Wait until after the tenth round to draft a closer.
- Heed position scarcity. In particular, respect position scarcity for shortstops and catchers. Note where the dropoff occurs for these positions and don't miss out on all of the top guys. Sure, you could pluck a Geovany Soto or a Ryan Theriot. But again, you increase your chances of busting.
- Be a waiver wire maniac. Some will tell you to leave your team untouched until May, because early stats can be deceiving. This is bad advice. Leave your stars alone, but aggressively pick up decent-looking players. Every roster has a few spots to allow for turnover. If you're not aggressive, you miss out on Cliff Lee and Ryan Dempster. Pick up now, ask questions later. Waiver wire aggression is also how you accumulate closers.
- Trade pitching for hitting. You'll find pitching easier to find on the waiver wire, so trade pitchers for star hitters whenever possible.
- That's all I can think of for now; maybe I'll add more later. None of these strategies are radical.
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These are some really good tips Tim, I agree with you all the way.
1. Conservative Projections- I read somewhere they picked Ryan Howard for .325 55 145. You have to use some of your gut here but dont just go onto one site and draft guys in that order.
2. Starting Pitching-Cliff Lee and Dempster are great examples. Ervin Santana is another. I cheated this year and took a guy in the 6th, 8th, and 10th and walked away with Webb, Hamels, and Haren. Luck is good too.
3. Power/Speed- Sometimes a guy who only hits 20 HR is great to have if he contributes in 20 SB (see McLouth, Nate). Guys who are 5-Category threats are much better than 2-Category threats (see Dunn, Adam).
4. Saves- Definitely an overrated stat. Pay nothing for saves. There will always be waiver wire closers or closers that are cheaper that will give you a big return.
5. This is pretty much self explanatory...this is why so many SS 2b,and 3B go early in drafts.
6. Waiver Wire- If you havent made at least 50 moves this year, you probably shouldnt be in first place. A team of all waiver pick-ups (think Quentin, Ludwick, Huff, Lee, Dempster, Volquez, Wood) as seen here: http://www.rotoauthority.com/2008/08/the-2008-undraf.html would most likely be winning your fantasy league now. Get the picture?
7. Pitching 4 Hitting- This is usually a great move for any team to make(unless its Furcal for Cliff Lee). Furcal was due for a slowdown but if he picked up Nolasco to replace Lee he wouldnt have been so bad off. I traded E. Santana and Y. Escobar for Reyes this year, then picked up Rich Harden. The next best available SS was S. Drew. The difference between Santana and Harden vs. Reyes and Drew illustrates this perfectly.
And one of my own:
8. Dont Draft With Your (Corey) Hart- So your a Brewers fan...you think Hart projects at .310 35 and 38 SB coming into this year. Full year as a starter, maturing, almost at power age (28). So you take him over proven guys like Sizemore, Berkman, or Beltran. Or you draft Ellsbury too early because you think he is cute (im sure SOME women play fantasy baseball-or at least thats my fantasy). Im a Red Sox fan and I have no Red Sox on my team this year. Its not as fun, but I am in first.
It may seem early to be thinking about this, but if your like me (and Tim it seems), your draft is only 6 months away!
Posted by: HypnoToad | September 04, 2008 at 10:18 AM
What kind of a league are you in where people will trade Jose Reyes for Ervin Santana and Yunel Escobar, and where Rich Harden and Stephen Drew are waiver wire fodder???? I want in on that league.
Posted by: Pawtucket Pat | September 04, 2008 at 11:39 AM
Excellent list Tim but you missed the number one strategy given the agreed upon conditions.
1) Consolidate, Consolidate, Consolidate. Since there will always be breakout players (early) and pitching available on the wire, trade up. (1) Don't draft too many players that you view as a sleeper that others in your league will disagree on. These players represent dead weight, non-fungible assets that take too long to cash in on. (2) Use two for one, three for one, and three for two offers whenever possible to acquire top-tier players. (3) Fill new roster openings with the talent available on the wire. By the time you're done, your team will be vastly improved over the squad you drafted.
Posted by: finite24 | September 04, 2008 at 11:44 AM
Pawtucket Pat, i was assuming that when HypnoToad said "pick up" of Harden and Drew he meant trading for them.
Posted by: Kramerica Industries | September 04, 2008 at 03:06 PM
No, until he hit for the cycle, Drew was available for picking up. Its only an 8 man league and up until recently he was batting .260-.270 all year. I think a lot of people were scared of Harden's injuries early in the year so he wasnt drafted.
Posted by: HypnoToad | September 04, 2008 at 03:35 PM
You forgot the most important rule: SELL HIGH.
Players, especially SP, who get off to an unexpected huge start almost always have regression (not to talk of Cliff Lee). I picked up Marcum and Volquez early, and traded them both very high mid-season, along with Uggla. (Players who are expected to perform well, like Lincecum, are different.)
Posted by: metafrantic | September 04, 2008 at 05:40 PM
Great list of rules put together. This is basically what I follow, except that I will draft pitchers earlier, but only elite younger pitchers.
In fact, I built my keeper league team drafting Johan Santana, Tim Lincecum, Dice-K, 1-2-3. I much later added Javier Vazquez then got Clay Buchholz with the minor league draft. Then I added on sleepers like Scott Baker, Andy Sonnanstine, Jonathan Sanchez with much later picks, around where most recommend starting to pick up starting pitchers. Not too shabby if I say so myself. I also have Julio Teheran and Henry Sosa in my minors, plus if Adam Miller could ever get healthy...
I always punt closers, sometimes don't even draft one. My first fantasy team, it was automated ranked list selection, and I ended up with one closer who was no longer a closer and a closer who either soon lost his job or was injured, don't recall. Following your rule of being a waiver wire maniac, I voraciously followed every on-line advice column for clues on closers and was able to jump on every switch almost, for the first 3 months. I was aware of an upcoming change long before it actually happened, allowing me to speculatively pick up the most likely replacement closer. I ended up winning the saves title by a landslide that season.
FYI, I was able to do that with steals as well that season, going from the bottom to nearly the top.
Which brings me to my rule that I will add here, which is tightly linked with the rule on being a waiver wire maniac: NEVER GIVE UP!
That team with the lousy closers? The whole team was lousy because I did not follow the rule in the comment above: I put Giants players high on the ranked list and ended up with a team full of lousy (relatively) players. Last time I ever did that (though I do try to snag one good player, whether Bonds or Cain or Lincecum; gotta have some fun!). Plus Bonds required daily monitoring in case he was sitting out and I had to swap in another OF. I also had players who were injured or poorly performing, like Jake Peavy. I was screwed.
Using my roto advice book, I went through all the prospects who were still available and picked up players like Joe Mauer, David Wright, Justin Morneau, Chase Utley, Willy Taveras, Ian Kinsler, Jesse Barfield, players who were unproven at that time but either had a nice call up the season before or did well in the minors and were highly ranked prospects. I looked for power, speed, and particularly combos.
I was also a waiver maniac for any time a new player was brought up who was a great prospect. Sure, it got me duds like Homer Bailey, but I also picked up gods like Ryan Howard doing that. I guess that leads to my next rule: cut losses short, keep the good ones.
As the rule in the original post noted, if you are not swapping out players at a fast rate (say compared to your league), you are not maximizing your chances. Everyone has at least one or three spots that are deadweight where you can swap out to the latest hot streak. I normally filter out players' performance over the past month and then use the league ranking function to find all the hottest players. From there, I either mark them to Watch or if I see an immediate fix, I swap out a deadweight for the new guy.
And you keep the stars, you only swap out the question marks. I've been able to pick up stars like Lance Berkman, Travis Havner, Mark Teixiera (not in same season, I must note) because somebody got impatient. Again, sure, sometimes he's really done or having a bad season, but if you follow my rule above, he's one of your 1-3 swappables stored in case he returns to normal. Again, you churn that portion of your roster like a maniac.
That was also the team where I ended up near the top in steals, I picked up Dave Roberts after someone dropped him (because of injury) and stored him on my DL until he was healthy and stealing again. I also got Ryan Freel via the waiver wire too, and others helped, like Taveras and Barfield.
With all these moves, I went from the very bottom of the league and ended up coming in third overall.
I also joined another league after the season started, with my new found knowledge, didn't select many Giants (Bonds and Schmidt), and was able to win that league. Thus in my first try at fantasy I ended up 3rd and 1st.
I say this not in bragging, but to point out that I was a total novice and able to do well, so anybody can do well, if they follow these rules.
Posted by: obsessivegiantscompulsive | September 04, 2008 at 06:49 PM
I agree with all of the original points. I'd also like to note that usually right before the league trade deadline I like to find that middle of the road team and do the 2:1 or 3:1 and trade for a stud SP to put the hammer down on the league. This year I couldn't get the starter I wanted (settled for Lilly) but I was able to get K-Rod and it put me in the lead for saves.
Posted by: jg | September 05, 2008 at 10:20 AM
It should be noted that this (like 99% of online advice, sadly), is intended for mixed draft leagues.
I'd love to see a similar piece for traditional leagues, where the strategies can vary greatly, and all be successful.
Posted by: bobo | September 05, 2008 at 11:07 AM
I'd only disagree slightly with 2 points
1. "Don't consider starting pitching until the eighth round of the draft."
Of the 5 pitchers you picked, 2 (Harang, Smoltz) probably went in the 6th-8th rounds in most leagues. So if you waited until the 8th and 1 of the 2 was available, you would have picked them.
Of the others (Bedard, Beckett, Verlander) there were significant injury/inconsistency risks involved with picking those players that early. Simply knowing their past should have made it easy to avoid these guys in the early early rounds.
According to your strategy, you'd also miss out on Lackey, Zambrano, Haren, and Kazmir in the 5th round or later. And in the 9th-10th round you'd probably pick up 1 of Ming-Wang, Liriano, Carmona, Hughes, Gallardo, Hill, Myers, or Pedro. How's that lot of players?
Heeding to this strategy unnecessarily limits yourself. Sure, good pitchers are available after the draft or in late rounds, but few are as impactful as a top starter. Just don't be stupid when you pick a pitcher.
So pitchers sure to go too early next year that should be avoided
Zambrano, Kazmir, Peavy, Harden, Lee, E Santana, Volquez, and Dempster. All are having better than average seasons or have injury risks (or both)
Posted by: deeco3307 | September 06, 2008 at 09:56 AM
The other point is trading pitching for hitting. This is highly variable based on your needs, so it doesn't apply to everyone. According to your strategy, you should draft pitchers late, hope their good, then trade the good ones for better hitters. There are 5 pitching categories right?
Posted by: deeco3307 | September 06, 2008 at 09:58 AM
... Carlos Zambrano is not having an above average season. He's been consistently this good for several years now. And you really can't call rotator cuff tendinitis the kind of injury risk that will keep you away from a guy like that.
Posted by: kmass | September 08, 2008 at 11:53 AM
I would also add these two, which sort of go together... 1) PATIENCE! I panicked in one league this season and ended up trading a top tier SS for a top closer, and I traded away a bunch of guys when they were slumping instead of waiting them out. If I had waited out five or six guys instead of being a nervous nellie, I'd probably be leading my league now, which brings me to my second point...
2) BUY LOW. I was able to trade for Ryan Howard when he was on the downslope, trading Bedard and Fuentes for him early in the season. For every Pronk and Ortiz out there, there are 3-4 Howards and Teixeiras waiting to explode after you buy low on them.
Posted by: IowaCubs | September 11, 2008 at 10:59 AM
I understand pitchers are deemed unreliable, so standard advice is to not to draft them in early rounds. Bucking this advice, I drafted Bedard in round 3 and Smoltz in round 6, both of whom were injured early on. But, I think I will draft aces in early rounds again next year, as the performance split between my draftees and my FA pickups is large. Even without Rich Harden, my 16th round pick, the split was large.
Team Drafted Pitchers 625 IP, 36 W, 83 SV, 644 K, 2.95, 1.18
Drafted (excluding Harden):483 IP, 26 W, 83 SV, 467K, 3.23, 1.22
Team FA Pickups 471 IP, 24 W, 46 SV, 391K, 4.26, 1.32
I am extremely selective on which OUTFIELDERS I draft in the early rounds, which worked out great for me. I picked up Carlos Quenin, but have no track record at plucking up emerging aces.
Posted by: bertrecords | September 20, 2008 at 12:53 PM
Let me start out by saying I agree with alot of these points but some of you need to challenge yourselves alittle bit more. I agree with bobo, I am in 2 NL ONLY 3 year Keeper Auction Leagues, where actual GM skills are needed. Not these 8 man mixed league drafts, where you see whose superstars have the best year.
It's all about paying attention to detail, patience, picking your spots, managing your free agent budget correctly, and alittle luck.
Posted by: Pimpology | January 09, 2009 at 04:47 PM
In those last few rounds, I would also add that you should go for the high ceiling, usually young guys that are more risky instead of the proven fringe roster players. For example, take a Cameron Maybin over an Aaron Rowand. Watch Maybin on your bench and if he doesn't work out, you can easily find Rowand like numbers on the waiver wire if someone else wasted a pick to put him on their bench. Seems like a no brainer but I'm always amazed when people make horrible late round draft picks. I usually have a few players in mind for the last 2 or 3 pick going into the draft.
Posted by: starfish | January 10, 2009 at 12:09 AM
I say, to each his own with league types. I have tried hardcore leagues where super-crappy players are important. Sometimes it's not for everyone. Mixed leagues require just as much skill for me, just different ones.
Posted by: Tim Dierkes | January 11, 2009 at 12:03 AM